Comments on Kinderkuchen for the FBI: Singing in the bel canto II

Same source, article on Horn:"The invention, c. 18...

2008-10-13T20:29:00.000-04:00

Same source, article on Horn:

"The invention, c. 1815, of valves by F. Bluehmel (or H. Stoelzel?) did away with these inconveniences and revolutionized horn playing. The first part for the valve horn is in Halévy's La Juive (1835). The hand horn continued to be used along with the modern type, owing to its more brilliant tone."

The idea here is that these are the first parts that could only be played by valve instruments. I hope this item is now sufficiently documented.

I have consulted the Harvard Dictionary of Music, ...

2008-10-13T20:12:00.000-04:00

I have consulted the Harvard Dictionary of Music, Second Edition, article on Trumpet and find the following:

"The invention of valves (1813) opened the way for the permanent establishment of the trumpet in the orchestra. One of the first parts for the valve trumpet is that in Halévy's La Juive (1835), in which two valve trumpets are used along with two crooked natural trumpets."

Just because they were invented doesn't mean they immediately leaped into use. I decided I should consult a legitimate source. When I was at IU, I was required to memorize that date, along with a few hundred others.

I continue to enjoy reading your material in this ...

2008-10-13T18:53:00.000-04:00

I continue to enjoy reading your material in this vein and look forward to the next [Verdi] installment. I attended a baroque trumpet & organ concert a couple of weeks ago, and the trumpetist (trumpeter?) [well, PhD in trumpet, anyway] declared that the valved version of her instrument came about in 1816. I suppose it may have taken a decade or more for opera composers to incorporate this new version into their scoring, so I won't quibble about your date -- just an FYI.